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you know what? I don't think there are that many "Ethical" vegans out there. Most of use eat veggies because it is tastier to us and healthier. We avoid milk because of sensitivity to it and honey- holy moley how fanatical can we get. I love honey.I would probably still be eating meat if it weren't so full of "other" things and at most "iffy" as far as freshness goes.
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What you describe in the first paragraph is a vegan. There are many different kinds of vegetarians for different reasons. A boy that worked with me years ago was vegan because he lacked some enzyme or amino acid or something that caused him to get violently ill if he ate animal products. I'm lacto-ovo vegetarian because I simply got tired of meat, then after reading Diet For A New America, I was repulsed by the way animals are treated while awaiting slaughter.Some are hardcore, and they do not eat anything that is a by-product of an animal, like honey, milk, cheese, etc. It is natural for bees to pollinate plants-they aren't forced to, they just do. That has nothing to do with ethics. For myself, I buy free-range chicken eggs, and I eat organic cheese that is locally made. Mmm Mmm, I loves me some cheese!
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Import/export of the bees is not something you can personally control and we cant survive without fruit and vegs. Perfect situation would be of course to live somewhere in nature, have your own garden. Bees would naturally pollinate the plants so that part is 100% vegan, (it is supposed to be that way) but exploiting and owning bees, like keeping them for honey, isnt vegan.Honey obviously isnt vegan because it is an animal product. It's directly linked to the bees, and is something they produce for themselves. They collect nectar and make honey from it, which is supposed to be their food source. Bees are intelligent creatures, each is an individual and their world is very complex and impressive.Moving the bees from one area to another is not right, but unless you have your own garden, as a vegan you dont have a choice. It is not ethical, but veganism is about making choices where it is possible to make them. You CANT do more than that. In case of the bees, it is possible for you to stop eating honey, but it is probably not possible to stop eating all plants that are pollinated by these captured bees. So do only what you can...with more vegans in the world, there will be more ethical alternatives concerning our food. And future generations wont have to deal with questions like this, Right now it is impossible to live in this world and be 100% ethical, because our society is built on unethical grounds. Just by being part of it, we are doing harm to nature and animals. But one step at a time, ok? Vegans are not perfect, but at least we are working on improvement and moving in the right direction.PS, if you are a vegetarian, you should have the same issue with dairy though!
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